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Thursday, February 11, 2016

Random Thoughts Through My Green Colored Lenses

 It's been a while since I last posted a random thoughts article.  With the All Star break here and the trade deadline coming up and with Master Po, Lee,  and JB posting some excellent articles here recently,  I figured it was time for me to check in.  My thoughts today are long and meandering and if you can't make it through them, that's ok.  Just a view through my green tinted lenses. 



I am so excited to have all three of these guys posting here.  All are long time Celtics fans who have honed their Celtics fandom over decades of watching this team's ebbs and flows.  All three have different opinions on the state of the team and the front office, and that is awesome because it gets us all to think and exercise our brain cells and to think on all sides of the issues.  Po has become a bit jaded over the years while JB is more like me and a glass half full kind of fan.  Lee is somewhere in the middle and all have excellent writing skills that make me anxiously waiting for their next articles.  But for now, you get to struggle through some of my rambling random thoughts. 

The 1968-69 Celtics are the team that won me over to being a lifelong Celtics fan. I was in high school and loved basketball but didn't really follow a pro team at the time. I didn't get to watch them much because they didn't have league pass and the access to watching basketball like they do today and I didn't live in an NBA market. But I loved to read and started reading about the Celtics and the Celtics Pride that drove that team and they won me over. Then I started reading all about the past Celtics teams and became a fan and have loved this team ever since.

That 1968-69 team was very special. They struggled through the regular season, ending the season with a 48-34 record, which landed them in 4th place in the East. Bill Russell was at the end of his spectacular career and struggled with leg injuries throughout the season that even forced him to be hospitalized for a brief time. Sam Jones was also struggling with injuries that season. There were cries from media and fans that this team was too old. The Lakers were the star studded team on the way to their inevitable championship. But, a funny thing happened on the way to the Lakers coronation. The Celtics reached down deep and pulled out a most improbable win. This Celtics team didn't have home court advantage in ANY series that year. They won against all odds and they won with heart and pride - Celtics Pride. And I was hooked for life.

I see the world through green colored glasses. I've always seen the positives and try to ignore the negatives. Even in 2007 when the team lost 18 in a row and were floundering, I loved that team. I get attached to players and hate it when Danny trades them but deep down, I know that trades have to be made. It's a whole different league from the days that Red used to be able to keep players for their whole career. It does happen but that is by far the exception rather than the rules. I may never forgive Danny for trading Perk, but I know deep down that he is just trying to make the team better. Sometimes it works out. Sometimes it doesn't. But given the state of quite a few of the teams in the league, I have to say that Danny has done better than many of the others at trying to build and rebuild the team.
That brings me to the current team. I LOVE this team. They are fun to watch and they play as a team and play with pride and heart. Does a team need 2, 3 or even 4 stars in order to win a championship? Or, can a team made of role players with perhaps second tier stars who play as a team and pull together for a common goal do as well as a team with one or more super stars? With the success of the Celtics Big 3 in 2008 and the success that the Heat had with pairing 3 stars, it's become fashionable to say that a team needs multiple stars to win a championship.

But even having 3 or 4 stars isn't a guarantee that a team will win a championship. Thinking back to the 1996 Rockets with Hakeem Olajuwon, Charles Barkley and Clyde Drexler or their next iteration with Scottie Pippen pairing with Barkley and Olajuwon.Neither of these teams meshed well enough to win a championship. And then there was the Lakers team that had 4 future Hall of Famers on it in Shaquille O'Neal, Kobe Bryant, Gary Payton and Karl Malone. They even had a future Hall of Fame coach and should have been able to win the championship that year. On paper, they were a lock to win it all, just as that 1969 Lakers team was, but they didn't mesh quite right and that team split up without a championship as well. And look what happened when the Nets brought in KG, Pierce, Joe Johnson, Deron Williams, AK47 and the rest of that very expensive and star filled team that just never jelled.

Then, we can look at the other side of the argument that has to begin with the 2003-04 Detroit Pistons. On that team were Chucky Atkins, Chauncey Billups, Elden Campbell, Hubert Davis, Tremaine Fowlkes, Darvin Ham, Rip Hamilton, Lindsey Hunter, Mike James, Darko Milicic, Mehmet Okur, Tayshaun Prince, Zeljko Rebraka, Bob Sura, Ben Wallace, Rasheed Wallace, and Corliss Williamson. We might make a case for Chauncey Billups, Rip Hamilton or Tayshaun Prince for being good players but they were hardly superstars. This was a team that won on teamwork. Every player knew their role and they performed their roles very well and because of that, they won the championship, because of teamwork and not because of superstars.

Another example that we can look at is my favorite team of all time. The 1969 Boston Celtics didn't really have a superstar. Bill Russell was in his last season as player/coach and, although he was a super star in his prime, at this stage of his career, he was no longer at a superstar level. Along with Bill Russell, the team included Jim Barnes, Em Bryant, Don Chaney, Mal Graham, John Havlicek, Bailey Howell, Rich Johnson, Sam Jones, Don Nelson, Bud Olsen, Tom Sanders, and Larry Siegfried. While John Havlicek was one of the great scorers and 6th men for the Celtics, he wasn't what we would consider a superstar this season. There were stars on this team, but no superstars as we have come to know them in this current superstar driven league. They won that championship over the heavily favored star laden Lakers. They won with heart, grit, and teamwork. Again, every player had a role and filled that role to perfection.

That brings me to this team. Danny has assembled a team filled with great role players. The key to this team is teamwork and every player filling his role completely and no player going outside of that role and trying to do too much for his own ego. Brad Stevens is the perfect coach for this team. He is great at allowing players to play to their strengths and has built a team mentality that brings out the best in each and every player. They are so much fun to watch. It's one for all and all for one.

Last season when the Celtics made the playoffs, I posted my thoughts on this team as the Island of Misfit Toys. Danny has built this team mostly with castoffs from other teams. He drafted Avery Bradley, Jared Sullinger, Kelly Olynyk and Marcus Smart, all of whom were considered damaged goods for one reason or another. He brought in Tyler Zeller who was considered expendable for little or nothing so the Cavs could sign LeBron. Jonas Jerebko was wasting away at the end of Detroit's bench and were considered expendable. Evan Turner was much maligned in both Philly and Indiana as a bust. Isaiah Thomas was the odd man out in a 3 point guard rotation in Phoenix and considered too short, too selfish, and just not good enough. Jae Crowder was a bit player and was cap filler for Dallas to get their star point guard in Rajon Rondo.

In his post game interview after last night's game, Isaiah Thomas mentioned that they were all castoffs from other teams and that was motivation for each of them to prove doubters wrong. That got me thinking again about my "Island of Misfit Toys" analogy and how much it still fits. I hear all the rumors about Danny trading for a star and I really, really hope he doesn't bring in an all about me star like Blake Griffin or Carmelo Anthony. Al Horford wouldn't be bad because he seems like a team player, but I really don't want to disrupt the incredible chemistry that this team has built.

As for a star on this team, we are seeing each of these players getting better from game to game. Isaiah Thomas is an All Star and has been playing like one. Heart over height has never been truer than in his case. Marcus Smart, Jared Sullinger, Avery Bradley, Jae Crowder, Evan Turner, Kelly Olynyk ... all have improved from last season to this and even from game to game and they continue to improve. I haven't even gotten to Rozier, Hunter or Mickey, all of whom have shown promise. Having watched him play with the Red Claws, I can't wait for Jordan Mickey to get a chance with the Celtics. We may have players on this team who will be stars in this league. I'd like to give them the chance to be stars on the Celtics.

I came across this statement in John Havlicek's biography and it has always stuck in my mind.
He also had the inner drive that characterized "Celtics pride." After his first year Havlicek went home and worked hard to improve both his outside shooting and his dribbling. The next season he led the team in scoring.
"The inner drive that characterized Celtics pride." The context of this statement seems to indicate that Celtics pride is something inside the players to make them want to be better. Something inside that makes them work harder because they are Celtics and that means something. Celtics Pride is what drove Havlicek to work to improve his dribbling and his shooting after his first year. It is what drove all of the Celtics' legendary players to be the best they could and to work together to become a team capable of winning a championship year after year. It is what kept Bird in the gym hours after practice working on his game even though he was already a superstar. Each of these current Celtics seem to have that drive that will enable them to continue to improve and possibly become stars in this league.

And besides all of that, this team is so much fun to watch. I'd much rather watch a team like these Celtics who all play team ball and work as a unit to beat star studded teams like the Cavaliers or Clippers. They win with grit and they win with heart. I don't want to watch a team with a superstar scorer who wants to be the center of attention all of the time. I want to watch a team where they may struggle at times, but they still find a way to win. A team where when a player goes down like last night, it's the next man up to fill in the gap. A team where the opposing team has no idea who is going to take the final shot because they don't have a "superstar" who expects to take it every night.

This team has built some very good chemistry. They get along very well together both on and off the court and that chemistry is part of the reason that they are over achieving on the court and winning games like the ones against the Cavaliers and the Clippers. They play hard for the team and for each other. Personally I hope that Danny stays away from players who demand a trade because they don't like their role or their playing time (Morris) and players who get into trouble off the court (Griffin).

If Danny makes a trade I want it to be for players who are willing to give up their me attitude and play for the team and for their teammates. I see that in the current Celtics and hope that players come in with that same attitude. That's just my opinion but I think it's a valid one. Teams that have in-fighting and chemistry problems don't win championships. Teams with great chemistry and players who happily fill their roles are the ones who succeed.

I may be one of the only people in this world who really loves the movie Celtic Pride. I think it's hilarious and have it in video and DVD format and pull it out to watch it every so often. I can picture a remake of this iconic film with a couple of fans kidnapping Danny just before the trade deadline as they try to keep him from making a trade that may or may not make the team better. I used to trust him to make the right moves for the team until he traded Perk. Now, I get a bit nervous when the trade deadline comes around. Who knows what he will do next?

Danny has made some great trades and some not so great ones. I consider trading Perk one of the bad ones. I think that trade cost us a championship and I may never forgive him for that one.   But then, the trade of Pierce and KG was a good one. Even though my heart said "Don't trade them. Be loyal!" my head said it was for the best of the team. I'd love to have had Pierce and KG retire as Celtics just like the old days, but in this day and age, it's just not always possible. Trading Rondo for Jae was a great trade. Trading a box of Wheaties and the Cavs 2nd round pick for Isaiah Thomas was a great trade.

Some trades will work out and some won't, but Danny hasn't done all that bad when you look at his record in totality. He brought a championship to Boston. He has rebuilt the team to the point of making the playoffs after being in the lottery just one season and now being a legitimate 3rd seed in the East. Compare that with the tenures of most of the GM's in the league and he's done quite well. I just really hope he doesn't break up this core group of players. I want to give them a chance at growing and succeeding together. I think they have earned that right.

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  1. Very nice article, and I completely agree! I'd much rather see the C's keep who they have than trade away some of their best guys for a "Super-star" who will kill the team's chemistry. As I look at this team, there are a few guys that I wouldn't mind giving up, guys who just don't seem to have that "Celtic's pride" that you talk about. Obviously David Lee is going. I like the guy, but he just didn't fit well. Amir Johnson is another guy that I wouldn't mind seeing traded. He's good, but he doesn't seem to give it his all very often. I mean, look at Sully, in spite of his size, he's always diving on the floor after a rebound. I just don't see Johnson doing that. If the right piece were available, I'd trade Johnson for him. James Young is another guy who just doesn't seem to fit. Every time he plays, it just seems like it's all about him (maybe he's just trying to prove himself, but he's extremely self-centered when he has the ball). Another guy I wouldn't mind trading is Zeller. He's a great guy, but he's just so stinking weak. Lately he's been playing better, but for his size he's a really poor rebounder, and not a great defender. I would like to see the C's trade Zeller, Lee, Young, and mabye Johnson for a player like Monroe. From what I've seen of Monroe, he's willing to get his hands dirty to make a play.
    I really hope Danny doesn't make a trade just to make a trade, and end up hurting what this team is capable of becoming.

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    1. Thanks for reading and thanks for the comment. I agree with what you said about Johnson, Young and Zeller. I really like Johnson but you are right he doesn't have the same go all out mentality of the others. And Young just doesn't seem to get it although I keep reading that he is getting better. I like Zeller. He's a good role player and a complete professional. No, he's not a great rebounder but I wouldn't mind keeping him.

      As for Monroe, Read through the Comments from the Other Side from the Bucks game. Bucks fans really don't like him and want to get rid of him. He's not consistent and like Amir isn't consistent in the effort category.

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    2. I guess I'm only basing my opinion of him based on that one game against Boston, where he looked like a beast. If that is the kind of player he normally is, he'd be great. However, if the Bucs fans know him better, and that's not his normal game, then we'd be better off looking elsewhere. Right now Sully is really the only guy we have who can consistently shut down the other teams' big guy (I think he uses his weight incredibly well). I'm not sure who is out there, or who's available, but the C's need another big body who can do that (and perhaps even block some shots). Johnson and Zeller (especially Zeller), just can't block out / force back the bigs from the opposing teams). A rim protector / big body should be the C's main objective right now. Every other position is looking pretty good.

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    3. Although I beat you by a few years, I too became a Celtics' fan-atic in the 60's when I fell in love with playing basketball the "right" way, The Celtics' Way! I was pleasantly surprised when playing unselfish ball kept being reborn within the Celtics' organization; a truly amazing recovery both after the Buffalo/LA franchise swap and again after the dark ages that only ended after Doc succeeded the Emperor. I give a lot of credit to Bird as an unselfish basketball purist for the reemergence of TA (that's TEAM without ME) ball in the 80's. Doc and Brad deserve high praise for reinstilling The Celtics Way in this modern era where most teams are fragmented by ego-driven athletes who not only make an obscene salary but need both an agent and a business manager to look after their endorsements and investments. (Anyone catch MJ's response to an interviewer's question about his declining to lend his backing of politicians to support his beliefs--"Republicans buy MJ basketball shoes too!" Or my money is my only real belief.)

      I agree with most of your points (and have always appreciated the fact that we were able to amiably disagree about the Perk (who I loved and anguished over his departure) trade. It was similarly difficult to get behind the Rondo trade, and to a lesser extent the Pierce/Garnett move (which sure looks good in the rear view mirror. I thought your contrast of Griffin/Anthony vs. Horford as a trade target was right on the mark (which you might surmise from my Bird comment).

      As for your desire to keep the core together, my gut reflex is to agree. However when I consider the reversal of fortune in the past year, it seems to me to be almost equal parts of Danny's GM moves, Brad's steady and guiding hand, and growth of players (both as a team and individually [I freely admit that I never thought that Isiaih and Evan would so completely get the TEAM/ME dynamic, and who knew that Crowder would come so far, so fast]). I am a believer--in Danny to find ways to improve the roster whether now or this summer and over the next few years as he dips into his warchest, in Brad to pull the team together and get them to buy into the process, in Lucky to light the path along The Celtics Way. It is natural to feel trepidation but just as Stevens has urged the players to trust the process, so should we also.

      As usual, your Random Thoughts has spurred an afternoon of thought--Thanks!

      ps As I read your and Mark's uneven-effort comments on Amir, I couldn't keep from flashing back to Johnson passing players down court--and the reverse with Sullinger which always has me gritting my teeth.

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    4. Wow, you guys are making me feel so young (I didn't start watching the C's until 1980). What a difference talking on a board with more mature posters, as opposed to so many of the young kids nowadays that prefer name-calling and slander to actual communication.
      Amir definitely has his good games where he looks like he fits right into the whole Celtic Scheme of giving it your all on every play. Likewise, Sully has his games where he looks more like a 300 pound chubbo who has trouble lumbering down the court. As a whole, however, I still think that Johnson just doesn't give it his all on a nightly basis (look at last night's game for example - where was he?). More often than not Sully plays like a guy who's about 100 pounds lighter than he really is, and I think that's the difference between the two of them. Sully seems to "get" it more often than Johnson does. Amir should have much better numbers than Sully because he's in much better shape, but normally Sully out-performs him by quite a bit. I don't think Sully is one of the top players in the game, but normally he gives it all he has. I just don't see Amir doing that on a regular basis. I really wouldn't mind if Boston doens't make a trade with Amir, but I also wouldn't mind if they do.

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    5. Mark, yes, Sully is overweight but he has worked hard on his conditioning so that he isn't huffing and puffing up the court. I think he needs to have a little extra weight because that allows him to move opponents out of the paint and to hold his own for rebounds. Whatever happens I really want to see these young guys get the opportunity to finish this season together and show what they can do.

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    6. Great article, Fl.... entertaining and full of detail.

      I also remember that 68-69 team.... my strongest impression was of the bandages so many were wearing... seemed like head to toe, I conjured up the image of mummies...

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    7. Well....when you write! You really write!!! Nice stuff!!!

      Lots of good stuff in here. Every time I am reminded or think of Mr. Russell being the Player-Coach, I remember how utterly shocked I was as a kid when this happened. I just could not get my head around that someone could coach a team and also be a player at the same time. My Dad loved Mr Russell and he was thrilled with the concept. I just kept thinking as a 10 year old kid (whose Dad coached semi-pro baseball for awhile and tough nosed) "who tells you to sit down on the bench when you play bad if you're a player AND the coach????". I thought that was the coolest thing.

      Of course beating the Lakers in LA and those balloons that never got released is one of my favorite stories to hear when Mr. Russell tells it. It just makes me smile.

      Concerning this team....well...I am shocked how well they are playing. The have "jelled" in a way I could have not imagined.

      I agree with Shirley on Perk. Nothing good came of it - except the beginning of the end. I saw no need for it. Perk didn't fit at OKC and he fit here. Should not have tinkered.

      I also agree with Mark about Amir. I think he is a class act who gives his all - I really like him, but he seems to lack a consistent aggressive nose for the ball. He doesn't fight hard enough for early position to block out AND THEN REBOUND - like Sully. BUT I ALSO, think Thomas doesn't get him the ball enough when he is open underneath that could make him a much better offensive threat than he is now plus take the pressure of Thomas underneath.

      I know Mr Thomas is something special, but for some reason I just don't like his "vibe" or something. I don't know why. He seems way more "me, me me" than TEAM, but there is no denying he can play and for his size it's a pretty remarkable season for him.

      Should we make a trade? For me, the answer is NO. Not because I don't think we need "something" more to win a banner (I would take Monroe in a heart beat for the right price) but I wouldn't trade now because of the great chemistry AND OF COURSE, I think Danny is at best 50-50 on effective trades.

      Outstanding article Shirley and great comments from all. Thank you.

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    8. Hmmm, I'm not old or anything, but I grew up a Knick fan....and my favorites were Harry (the Horse) Gallatin and Carl Braun. I became a Celtic fan when Larry Bird arrived in Boston!

      Now to the subject: It does not matter whether you want a trade or not. YOU HAVE TO REDUCE our roster. We have Micky who should be playing and isn't, Hunter who should be playing and isn't, Rozier who should be playing and isn't and perhaps our boy Thornton in Australia. AND, we have somewhere between 6 and 8 draft picks this Spring! We have to trade, have to!

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  2. The deadline has passed and no trades! ….HOORAY!

    I'm with you, FlCeltsFan. I thought your idea for a remake of Celtic Pride was brilliant. The thought of kidnapping Danny before the trade deadline had me laughing right up til 3pm Thursday. ...That is, in between biting my nails down to the nubs.
    In contrast to my favorite writer, Master Po, allow me to wax messianic in a “glass half full” kinda way.
    I really like the 8 or 9 man core of this team. They have heart, a quality I prize above all others in an NBA player. It's right up there with FIDB (fire in da belly)
    These guys have it and it's growing. So, I'm happy no trades were made. I believe trading any part of this team could have jeopardized their burgeoning chemistry. It certainly would have ended the potential we can see developing right in front of our eyes. We already have one all-star in Isaiah, and at least two more possible all-stars developing in Marcus and Jae. Who knows... maybe Avery will become an all-star, too! These guys are constantly being described as roll players in need of a super-star. ..Well maybe they are roll players, but they are such talented role players and playing so well together they are being pointed out, applauded, and talked about on NBA talk shows on a regular basis now. ...I think Jae Crowder was completely correct when he said the way this team is playing together it already is a super-star.
    And just by the way, who could have expected Jae Crowder would become as good as he is? ...Sorry to say, not me. I'll bet most of the trade calls Danny received during this last week were from teams inquiring about the availability of Jae Crowder, maybe even over Isaiah Thomas. It was only about 2 weeks ago while talking about Isaiah's becoming an all-star that Zach Lowe of the Lowe Post podcast added, he thought Crowder was even more valuable than Isaiah. Then, Zach went on to talk about who he thought we should trade Crowder to - Huh?
    Look, Jae's got a build like Lebron, so you know he can take a lot of punishment. You already know he will play hurt so you know he will be durable. He plays top shelf defense he leads the team in steals and he's finding his shot on a regular basis now. Granted, all that's pretty good but for me, there's something else. Like Marcus Smart and Isaiah Thomas, Jae plays with heart and he make's that feeling contagious in a Kevin Garnett way. He's pulling this team together. Who knows what his ceiling is? I can tell you he's made me reconsider my standard for what is possible to expect from young players. I've even got my fingers crossed for Kelly and Sully making it to the all-star team next year. ... Hey, ya never know!

    A special thank you has to go out to Michael Jordan because we still have our number 5 first round Net's pick this year. We also have 3 more first round draft picks left in our pockets to go with it. Picks we didn't spend on the untested rookie, Justice Winslow. (Thank you, MJ!)
    Free agency is coming and Al Horford will be available if you want him for no picks or players ...And best of all, I believe that players all around the league are beginning to want to play in Boston. I'll bet Al Horford is one of them. Not a bad outcome for a trade deadline passing with no trades.
    One more thing and just to top it all off, Danny didn't screw up!
    Kool-Aid anyone? ...Master Po?

    Signed - Tom “52 wins” Sisco

    PS - I want to thank Master Po for leading me to this site. I came here to read his stuff but found other posts and articles I also really enjoyed. Articles like the one above from FlCeltsFan. (Wow!) More of those, please. I have to mention I also like the people that comment here. What a great group! So civil and friendly. I keep coming back looking for more of these very pleasant surprises. What a great site! I'm hooked!

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  3. Thank you for your great comment. I was thrilled that Danny didn't make a trade yesterday. I really love watching this team and they are so much fun to watch the way they play together. I think you and I are a lot on the same page. We both love this team and the heart FIDB (love that!) that they play with and we both love Master Po :) I'd never thought of it but yes, thanks to MJ for keeping Danny from doing something stupid in the last draft LOL. Thanks for reading and for commenting!!

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  4. While I appreciate the compliments....if I am your favorite writer, then I suggest more time in the public library for both of you...not just sitting out in the parking lot.

    I have to smile that the Sisco Kid is thanking MJ for keeping Danny from hurting himself and the Celtics....nothing spells success like another GM/owner saving you from your own mistakes.

    Speaking of mistakes, what a great move bringing in David Lee was by both Stevens and Ainge. You pay the guy $15 million while trading a gut YOU BARELY PLAYED BUT HE ONLY MADE $10 MILLION, THEN you barely even play the $15 million guy....(based on a just a few rough games and inconsistent minutes....so finally you buy him out for the full price of his contract so some other team can use him? So much for the hype about Danny's genius 7 months ago to when he brought in David Lee.

    I'm mean how brilliant is that !!! I guess Danny can make a $5 million dollar mistake with Wyc's money but I'm sure he would not do that with his own $5 million.

    Personally, I am glad David Lee got the full $15 million, and I hope he has some more success - somewhere else that might appreciate his solid ability that I think he has - especially to score and scrap down in the low post..... not a really valued skill in 3-pt Celtic land ....which by the way we shot about 28% from 3-pt land last night in the loss to Utah...
    A long way from 52 wins...
    Kool-aid anyone? LOL!!!! You guys have a good weekend

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  5. Where a General Manager of a major east coast basketball team wakes up the morning after trading a horde of draft picks only to find he's become a cockroach.
    Soon to be released under the nom de plume, (Cough-ca!) Po (Cough-ca!)

    Actually, I'm writing to let you know that I already have some tasteful thank you cards in the mail to both Sam Hinkie and Jerry Colangelo for stopping Danny from yet another bad trade. ...And by the way, it doesn't count when Danny “almost” screws up. Danny has to actually has to screw up as far as all of us down here at the Kool-Aid Cafeteria are concerned. …. (but thank you anyway, Sam and Jerry!)
    Ya know Po, the Celtics mascot's name is “Lucky,” and as far as Ainge is concerned it's better to be lucky than smart.
    Now, to my second point.
    I think the 86 Celtics team was the best team to ever play the game. I think they would beat the orange juice out of the Golden State Warriors if those two teams could ever have played in the finals together.. AND if Parish, McHale and Bird were added to our current guard oriented offense team, we'd frappe' them as well. Ok, maybe no big revelation there, but unlike the PO-ster, I have moved on from the model of “offense only” centers like onroe and I have to site Parrish McHale and Bird as my reason. Though they were not famous for their defense, they did have it, and even though players like Monroe can produce incredible games against us... it's very likely because our interior defense sucks like Hoover!
    I'm saying we lack both interior offense and interior defense and I believe we need a center who can provide both. So I don't think either Greg Monroe or Jahlil Okafor are the answer for our current team. Even though these may be the only youthful centers available at the moment. By the way, Monroe will be available again in 2017 but Danny just had the chance to bring in him in this year and he passed. Monroe went on to decimate the defense of the Milwaukee Bucks. They are now far lower in the standings this year than last year, and I think it's fair to say Monroe had a large hand in pulling the Bucks down. It's also fair to add that the rest of the credit can go to Jason Kidd for bringing in MCW, ditching Brandon Knight, and letting ZaZa go. Za Za is really good defensive center.

    Look, we cut David Lee and bought out his contract. He is an experienced offensive center who can even pass the ball. The knock was no defense....hmmmm. Like Monroe, Jahlil Okafor, is a true offensive force, even by the great Tommy Heinsohn's standards, but he is still another, 'all offense / no defense' center. From this last David Lee episode, it's fair to say, Stevens may not even know what to do with an offensive center if he had one...another reason I think it's ironic Danny just went after Jahlil Okafor in a trade. But I'm very glad we didn't spend that number 5 Net's pick. Especially while it has an 11% chance to become the number one over all on draft day. I think we dodged a bullet and ya know....it's better to be lucky.

    Tom “52 wins” Sisco

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  6. Sorry I cut this opener off in my cut and paste job-

    ...So, you actually have to go “IN”-side the library. Hmmmm...good tip, thanks!
    Master Po, you'll be happy to know I've done just that, but in my own perhaps, limited way. Not to boast, but I've gone into the Celticsblog library and read the entire catalog of your collected works. In spite of the fact that all of them are cleverly written under assumed names, I was still able to find them and read them, and you still remain my favorite author.
    Who could forget “Ainge on a Hot Tin Roof “– By Tennessee “Ernie” Po.
    The story of a dysfunctional General Manager of a basketball team, set in deep south.
    ...Or, “Creative Deck Chair Arraignments For Exceptionally Large Cruise Ships,” by Fung Schway Po.
    I can't wait for your latest work called, “Make-a-deal-for-this,”

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    1. Tom I love reading your comments. You make some excellent points. How would you like to write for Celtics Green? If that entices you, send me an email. :) I'm still intrigued by Jordan Mickey. I'd love to see him get some real minutes with the team.

      Also, it's just rumor that Okafor was the subject of the trade that Danny talked about. I read something the other day that it may have been Jimmy Butler. We probably never will know for sure.

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    2. Oh my God....don't give this guy a keyboard and a stage!!!!!..Instead get him a deckchair that reclines all the way back, a sippy cup holder for his juice,...has wheels....and is near the rear of the ship...where the rail is broken.

      If he doesn't sink like a bad draft pick, then I'll write a new book called "Hope Floats with Other People's Money" or maybe "Adrift with Lucky Danny and Helpful Hinkie".

      Seriously, Tom would be a great addition. He and I have become friends and he has good eye for basketball (just one) and a funny streak. The only thing I am unsure about is his choice of libraries...check his library card.

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    3. Never change Po! You keep me (and the rest of us koolaid drinkers) grounded. Thanks for giving me a smile this morning. I'm waiting on pins and needles for the "Adrift with Lucky Danny and Helpful Hinkie" article. LOL. That would be a good one :)

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  7. FlCeltsFan, I have one question for you, would writing for CelticsGreen mean I'd have to behave and stop trolling Master Po?
    Thank you very much for your offer. I'm more than enticed, I'm honored. I'll email you with a more complete reply.

    I wanted to respond to you about Danny's mystery trade being someone other than the Sixers:
    Thanks for this new piece of information. Oh boy, do I love the thought that Steve Bullpet's article might be mistaken and the mystery trade may not be Jahlil Okafor, after all. From all of Danny's clues I originally thought the mystery trade partner was someone other than Philly.
    This is probably not and exact quote here but when Danny said, “The other side decided to wait, and finish out the season as best they can,” it made me think the team may be the Indiana Pacers. Full disclosure, I also wanted it to be the Indiana Pacers and the player to be named later to be Paul George.
    Here are all my reasons why I thought Indiana was the mystery team -
    Larry Bird holds loyalty in very high regard. He's also the kind of person who'd want to give Paul George his very best shot at a championship ring.
    Presently, the Pacers are trapped in the middle of the NBA. They are just good enough to screw themselves out of a great lottery pick every year and with Paul George they will remain in that position for a long time to come. Add that, Larry's already been forced to begin a tear down and rebuild the Pacers as a small ball team. He knows it's going to take a long time to accomplish his changeover. The Pacers are a small market team and Larry needs picks more than trades and expensive free agents to make it all happen. I'm saying at present their market position forces them into a very slow strategy that primarily uses picks. So, if Danny offered Larry a pile of picks, to jump start a complete and speedy rebuild, I can definitely see Larry sitting down with Paul George and saying,
    “Paul, it's all up to you, would you like to be in Boston playing on a contender next season? Think about it.”
    In essence, offering Paul George the time to ride out this last season. See where the Pacers wind up and make a clear headed decision at the end of the basketball year, knowing he has the opportunity to make Boston a contender right away. He can stay or go, and either decision will be good for Paul George, Larry Bird, and the Pacers organization. ..And it all comes with a guarantee that Boston will fulfill it's end of the bargain and with Paul George on board.
    They will pull in the best in the league and put the finishing touches on a championship team with very willing, very expensive, free agents wanting to come in right away.
    All parties involved would receive a potentially terrific outcome and all walk away with nothing but good feelings.
    Let me just tie a ribbon around my theory ....
    What GM would forego this 'opportunistic moment' to push the pause button on the negotiation just when more treasure was about to be put on the table?
    What GM would have the character to say, “Nope. No reason to add more assets to the deal. We'll think about it and get back to you this summer.”
    I can tell you, it doesn't sound like a lot of GMs out there. It's all just speculation on my part but it sure doesn't sound like Sam Hinkie.

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  8. Looking forward to your email.

    As for your idea about it being Paul George that makes a lot of sense. Since the BKN pick was said to be in the mix, I never understood why it would be Okafor. Okafor is more of an offensive guy and not the defensive kind of player that Danny and Brad have gone after. And Danny already said that he wouldn't give up the BKN pick for either Love or Horford and I really couldn't see them giving it up for Okafor. But Paul George or Jimmy Butler both make much more sense and with the Bird/Ainge connection and Indiana's situation, I can definitely see it. I'd love that.

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  9. FLCeltsFan: Apparently Danny and Brad do go after non-defensive players....because they went after David Lee and then everybody started screaming he doesn't play Defense! And we buy him out for the $15 million.... Well who brought him on board?

    Now the Sisco kid chimes in with this beauty:

    "In essence, offering Paul George the time to ride out this last season. See where the Pacers wind up and make a clear headed decision at the end of the basketball year, knowing he has the opportunity to make Boston a contender right away. He can stay or go, and either decision will be good for Paul George, Larry Bird, and the Pacers organization. ..And it all comes with a guarantee that Boston will fulfill it's end of the bargain and with Paul George on board.
    They will pull in the best in the league and put the finishing touches on a championship team with very willing, very expensive, free agents wanting to come in right away.
    All parties involved would receive a potentially terrific outcome and all walk away with nothing but good feelings.
    Let me just tie a ribbon around my theory .... "

    What the ?????? I am so glad you just used the word "Theory" ...this THEORY may be harder to prove than how gravity waves bounce across two black holes sucking each other up out there in the cosmos...

    Question of the Day! .....How long are you visiting Planet Earth?

    ;-)

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