According to Chris Forsberg, the Celtics are preparing to add Jason Collins to bolster their bench.
The 7'0" Collins has been in the league 11 years, playing for New Jersey, Minnesota, Memphis and most recently Atlanta. Collins played in 30 games for Atlanta last season and averaged 1.3 points and 1.6 rebounds in 10.3 minutes per game. He shot 40% from the field and 46.7% from the line. Collins started 4 games in the playoffs vs the Celtics and averaged 2.4 points and 2.4 rebounds in 17 mpg. He is a decent post defender, so there is that. While he won't exactly set any records with his play, he's at least the right price, reportedly signing for the vet minimum. He's big and he's cheap and can defend and should be a good locker room guy.
Greg Stiemsma has reportedly reached an agreement with the Timberwolves on a contract for next year. The Wolves have pursued the center since free agency began and it appears that they have reeled in their man. The Celtics had tendered a $1.1 million offer sheet at the start of free agency but the offer from the Wolves is expected to be more than that. With only the bi-annual exception to offer, the Steamer era in Boston is about to end.
Stiemsma is using his experience with the Celtics to cash in with another team just as Tony Allen, Big Baby and others have done before him. This doesn't come as a surprise since big men this season have been getting paid very well. Omer Asik had very similar stats to Stiemsma's and he received a 3 year/$25 million contract offer from Houston.
The Celtics have 3 days to match, which is doubtful, or they could simply withdraw the qualifying offer and Greg would become an unrestricted free agent to sign wherever he wanted to. Stiemsma is a native of Wisconsin, and will be playing closer to home. He'll also be playing for the team that gave him his first NBA opportunity. Stiemsma signed with the Wolves at the end of the 2009-10 season, but they waived him before he had the chance to play a game.
Now that Stiemsma is definitely heading elsewhere, the Celtics can get on with the job of finding another big who can play inside for them and give them some back up minutes off the bench. In a bit of irony, the Celtics best option may be Darko Milicic, who was amnestied by the Wolves.
The Celtics will be playing short handed again, but at least this time they have had a day to digest the trade and work on a new game plan to make up for the missing players. They found out about the trade when they were already on the floor getting ready to warm up for the game and that must have made it tough on the guys to play.
Both the Bucks and Celtics have 2-1 records in Vegas play. The Bucks are coming off a win over the D-League stars. The Celtics are trying to come back from a loss vs Sacramento.
One player to watch is the Bucks first round draft pick, John Henson, a 6'11" power forward they nabbed with the 14th pick. He is averaging 17.5 points, 8.5 rebounds and 2.5 blocks per game. He will be matched up with the Celtics' own first round pick, Jared Sullinger, who is averaging 9.0 points, 10.3 rebounds, and 1.0 blocks per game.
Second year player, Tobias Harris is playing very well for the Bucks also. He is averaging 21 points and 8.3 rebounds per game. He will match up with Celtics' second round pick, Kris Joseph, who is averaging 7.3 points and 2.7 rebounds.
The Celtics will be playing short handed and the players they have aren't completely healthy. Kris Joseph is dealing with a hyperextended knee that kept him out of the second half of their win over the Bulls and hampered him in the loss to the Kings. Fab Melo also injured his hand in the last game and may be out or at the least hampered by it in this game.
The Celtics will be playing with just 9 players. They are also playing in their 9th game in 13 days so fatigue will definitely start to be a factor for these guyes. We shall find out just what kind of heart and grit these guys have in this one.
The Celtics play the Bucks tonight in Vegas. The Summer Celtics were thrown for a loop when 3 of their teammates were pulled and traded during warmups and suffered their first Vegas loss. They've had a day off to regroup and hopefully they will play well in today's game. There is still plenty of talent on the team. Granted, E'Twaun was emerging as the most consistent scorer and JaJuan was coming around, but Christmas was playing as well as Moore and Sullinger should be able to lift his game a level or two and take up the slack. Perhaps Jamar Smith and Craig Brackens will also step up in this one. Then again, fatigue could be a problem as the Celtics are playing in their 9th game in 13 days while the other team is just on their 4th game, since the Celtics are the only team playing in both Summer Leagues. Read more » Leave a comment Link backs Tweet
We've all, including Greg Stiemsma himself, have been waiting for Minnesota to get their offers all straight and make an offer to the Celtics' center. Now we learn from ESPN Boston that Greg has gotten an offer that is larger than the qualifying offer of $1.05 million tendered by the Celtics.
Restricted free agent center Greg Stiemsma has received an offer from a new suitor, according to a league source.
This offer, when formally delivered, will almost certainly price Boston out of the Stiemsma Sweepstakes. Given their cap constraints, the Celtics are unable to match even a modest offer for his services with only the biannual exception ($1.95 million) remaining above a minimum contract and Boston is nearing the luxury tax threshold.
The Celtics have to stay below the luxury tax threshold and would likely not match a larger offer from another team. And, Greg may still get an offer from the Timberwolves who have been courting the center throughout the free agent period. No one can blame Stiemsma from taking a bigger offer because he's just starting his career and needs to get what he can in this fickle business. But with Omar Asik, whose stats are almost identical to Greg's, getting a $25 million offer for 3 years, the offer may be way more than Greg can afford to turn down.
Stiemsma averaged 2.9 points, 3.2 rebounds, and 1.5 blocks per game in 55 games last season, but played much of the season with two bad feet. He had a bone bruise in one foot and battled plantar fasciitis in the other but played through the pain. Of course, he could decide that he wants to come back to the Celtics and remain under KG's tutelage and reject the bigger offers. Not likely I know, but you never know.
Yesterday was quite interesting for Celtics fans. First there was the tease on Twitter of Courtney Lee signing with the Celtics. That seemed a bit far fetched because it didn't seem that the Celtics had the assets to make a trade work. But I guess we underestimated Kevin McHale's love for the Green Team.
As we got word that the trade was indeed going down, there was the very surreal atmosphere in Vegas where the Celtics were preparing for their game vs the Kings. Moore and Williams in uniform, talking with Doc, and then leaving the arena. I really feel for E'Twaun Moore. He was playing so well in SL. He was the Celtics most consistent player and had just said the day before that he was pretty certain he would make the team and his play was baking that up. Now we learn that he's on his way to Houston where they plan to cut him. I really hope some team saw his play in Orlando and Vegas and pick him up. He's proved with his play that he deserves a chance in the league. He's a combo guard who has great range on his shot and plays under control. Someone should step up and nab him. Read more » Leave a comment Link backs Tweet
Having said that, just got word from source: Players been told #Rockets-#Celtics deal is OKd. Took some wrangling, but Lee will go to BOS.
— Sean Deveney (@SeanDeveney) July 20, 2012
In this world of instant gratification and social media, reports come so quickly that much of the time facts change by the time you post them on a blog. Such are the facts in the Courtney Lee sign and trade. First, it was done, then it wasn't. Then there was a report that they needed a third team to get the deal done and both Phoenix and New Orleans were mentioned. Then there was a report that the trade was in limbo and might not be final until tomorrow, if then. All of this within an hour or so. My head is spinning.
Now, I'm happy to report that according to Sean Deveney, the players have been notified that the Courtney Lee deal to Boston is done. Assuming there are no surprises, it will be E'Twaun Moore, Sean Williams, JaJuan Johnson, and a 2nd round pick to Houston for Courtney Lee. That is, unless another report comes out in a few minutes and says something completely different.
There have been reports that JaJuan Johnson doesn't want to go to Houston and is hoping to be traded but that's just reports. It may have been a spur of the moment reaction that he will rethink later. When he thinks about being coached and mentored by Kevin McHale, one of the best big men in league history, maybe he'll see it differently.
I really feel for E'Twaun Moore, who has been playing so well in Summer League. He said just yesterday that he liked his chances of making the team. And surely he has played like he belonged. And now, Houston plans to cut him after the trade. Hopefully some team will grab him and give him a chance because he has proved with his play in summer league that he belongs.
I'm sure we will hear more on the signing tomorrow and get the final details on the deal.
Final(I hope) Update on the deal from the Herald:
It took awhile and a couple of false starts, but the Celtics [team stats] got their man last night, acquiring Courtney Lee from Houston in a sign and trade for JaJuan Johnson, E’Twaun Moore, Sean Williams, Sasha Pavlovic and a second-round draft pick. The paperwork is expected to be finalized today.
Now, this is all speculation and twitter rumor, but it adds some intrigue for us.
Here is a string of twitter posts by someone who says they are Courtney Lee's cousin and by Lee, himself. Make of it what you will. We should know soon enough since he said he was planning to sign within 48 hours. At least he didn't deny it was with the Celtics.
Congrats to my cousin Courtney Lee for signing with the Boston Celtics!!! Keep it up fam!!!
— Chris Stewart (@BigSexyy_Escy) July 19, 2012
As a testament to the play of the Celtics' team, the game will be shown live on NBA-TV. Originally, the schedule was for this game to be shown on tape delay at 3:00 AM. Instead, they moved this one to be shown live and the Cavs/Timberwolves game has been moved to the 3 AM slot. Also, for those who get CSNNE, you will have the treat of having the game televised by the Celtics announcers on that channel as well.
The Celtics will try to keep their unbeaten record in Vegas alive as they face a Kings squad that hasn't had much success this week. Their only win came against the winless Lakers (why does it feel so good to say those words together? "winless Lakers") The Kings are playing in their final Vegas team and would love to salvage a 2-3 record for the week. The Celtics are going to need to play well to win this because the Kings are going to try to end their summer league action on a high note.
An individual matchup to watch in this game is 6'9" Thomas Robinson, who was the 5th pick in the draft, vs the Celtics' first round pick, Jared Sullinger. Robinson is averaging 14 points and 8 rebounds per game in Summer League while Sully is averaging 10.5 points and 10.5 rebounds per game. Should be a fun game to watch.
Anyone been wondering about what Paul Pierce has been doing with his summer? He's been very quiet this summer. Kevin Garnett weighed in on Ray Allen and about the new signees but we haven't heard anything from the Captain. Well, good news, Celtics fans. He posted a photo on facebook to show us what he's been doing this summer with the simple title: Work.
It looks like the Truth is going to let his work ethic do the talking. From these photos, it looks like he's in great shape and getting better. I can't wait until the season!!!
CSNNE's A. Sherrod Blakely is reporting via Twitter that the Celtics are interested in Bucks' free agent, Carlos Delfino.
Delfino, a 6'6" guard/forward, averaged 9.0 points, 3.9 rebounds, 2.3 assists, in 28 minutes per game last season. He shot 40% from the field and 36% from beyond the arc. It would appear that the Celtics are moving on past Courtney Lee. I would hope that Pietrus is also a possibility. He has made no secret of wanting to come back and he's a great locker room guy and was playing very well before his knee started acting up again. I'm sure there will be plenty more "Celtics are Interested in Player X" posts coming up!
Celtics rookie forward Kris Joseph hyperextended his left knee during the first half of Boston's 79-74 victory over the Chicago Bulls on Tuesday and did not return.
Team officials offered no update on his status after the game, leaving him questionable for Thursday's tilt with the Sacramento Kings (6:30 p.m. ET). Joseph and the rest of the Celtics will have the day off on Wednesday.
Doesnt look like its gonna be a problem. Might just be minor, but they do have today off giving him a day to rehab. However whether he plays its up to Coach Lue.
Ty Lue says Kris Joseph's hyperextended knee is not a big concern.
E'Twaun Moore lit it up scoring 25 points 7 rebounds on 10 of 19 shooting. Even going 2 of 4 from 3. It was a breakout game for Moore who is looking to gain a guaranteed roster spot with Boston. Dionte Christmas continued his stellar play putting in 18 points on 6 of 11 shooting and 2 of 4 from 3. Jamar Smith came off the bench and chipped in 11 points making 3 3's. Sully only got 7 points but work hard on the glass collecting 14 boards.
vs Boston Celtics (2-0) vs Chicago Bulls (0-1) Wednesday, July 18 12:00 PM ET Tape Delay (Game was played 7/17 10:00 PM) NBA-TV Cox Pavillion, Las Vegas, NV
This game was already played and the results recorded but won't be televised until 12:00 PM ET today. Some people (like me) found a stream and were able to watch it live, but many won't watch until today. So this is a reminder that even if you did watch the game live, watch on NBA-TV today at noon.
It's good to see Leon Powe playing again, even if it is for the Bulls and even if it is Summer League. I really hope he catches on with a team. He's one of the good guys in the league and you have to pull for him. He gave all he could to the Celtics and then some.
I won't give any of the details of the game away for those who haven't watched it and have avoided reading the game recaps. All I'll say is it's a good one so don't miss it. For those who were looking for the game thread before last night's game I apologize. The tape delay showing threw me off.
The Celtics have finally made the Jason Terry signing official. Danny has been trying for weeks to work with the Mavericks to work out a sign and trade but to no avail. The signing of OJ Mayo this week by Dallas closed the door on any further efforts to work out a sign and trade. So, Terry will get the MLE for $5 million a year for 3 years.
This signing means a couple of things for the Celtics. Because the Celtics used their mid-level exception, they are not allowed to go above the $74.3 million tax payer limit. They also now have only the bi-annual exception, which is around 1.9 million or vet minimum contracts, that are partially paid by the league.
If Danny is still in pursuit of Courtney Lee, he will have to reach a sign and trade agreement with Houston, or get Lee to accept the bi-annual exception, which would be a pay cut for him. Other teams are still courting Lee, including the Wolves and Suns, both of whom can offer more than the Celtics. Seeing Gerald Green get $3 million per year from Indiana has to make the remaining wings realize that they can cash in while teams are willing to over pay.
Perhaps Danny should stop chasing players in the market place and re-sign Mickael Pietrus, who has not made any secrets of wanting to come back to Boston. Pietrus played very well before his knee started bothering him. He played in pain. He was a great locker room guy and he brought a ton of energy off the bench. He's a very good defender and can hit the 3 to stretch the floor. What's not to like?
After taking $12 million over 2 seasons from the Celtics and playing in a grand total of 49 games, Jermaine O'Neal had the nerve to say that the Celtics weren't a good fit for him and he's looking forward to finding a situation with a better role for him. WHAT???!!!
Jermaine O'Neal was set to be the Celtics starting center. He was playing with one of the best point guards in the league who was ready to find him anytime he got to the basket. He was considered by Doc Rivers to be the MVP of training camp last season. All he had to do was stay healthy and play 20 minutes or so a game. But I guess that was too much for him to handle. Now, he's bad mouthing the Celtics while he's trying to sign on with the rival Lakers. I say good riddance.
I'm not sure what his idea of a better role would be. Maybe a team that will pay him $6 million a year to play 10 games. Or maybe he wants to get paid and not play at all.
“Sometimes when you’re asked not to worry about some of the stronger parts of your game, which is scoring, and only [focus on] defense, that’s difficult to do.”
“I’m not stupid,” O’Neal said. “I don’t think I can go for 20 every night anymore, but I do believe I can go for 20 on any given night. It’s just about finding a position whether it’s coming off the bench or starting, whether its 15 minutes or 30 minutes, whatever the coaches ask you to do it’s just about having the opportunity to be yourself. I just want to get to the level that I know I’m physically right.
Could be the Celtics expected too much from him. They asked him to be a team player and do what the team needed. What a loser. Feel free to sound off with your feelings on JO in the comments.
As most of us figured, the signing of OJ Mayo by the Mavericks signaled the end of the possibility of a sign and trade with them for Jason Terry. The Herald's Steve Bulpett reports that Danny has exhausted all avenues for a sign and trade with Dallas and is getting ready to officially sign Jason Terry with the Celtics' MLE.
The only way the Celtics can land Courtney Lee now is if they somehow work out a sign and trade with the Rockets, or if decides to sign for the bi-annual exception, which is way less than market price for him. The Wolves and several other teams are also interested in Lee, so he will get offers for more than the Celtics can give but it's possible that the lure of the chance for a ring and his relationship with Doc Rivers may lead him to sign for less with the Celtics. Danny was seen chatting with Rockets' GM in the stands at Vegas Summer League. He may be working on something, or maybe they were talking about the dangers of drinking coffee.
My solution for finishing the roster is to re-sign Pietrus and try to sign Darko and bring in two of the Christmas/Moore/Joseph trio and I think we'll have a very good team. Of course, there are always trade possibilities with Trader Dan at the helm. And, he always seems to do the unexpected. So, stay tuned for the Celtics' next move.
I came across a summer league game thread from yesterday's game thread and the comments were so good I just had to share. It appears that Hawks fans are quite bitter over their losses to the Celtics. I guess losing to the dame team year after year after year will do that to you! There aren't a lot of comments like there are for regular season, but what they lack in quantity, they make up for in hilarity. Enjoy this bonus SL edition of Comments from the Other Side!
Beat the Celtics!
But they have sullinger And melo……… God I hate the Celtics.
I can hear them now “Guys we got Suh-linger. This kid is the next Gahr-nett. Bill Simmons told me so.”
Is it wrong to HATE this group of Celtics?
"If hating you is wrong, I don't want to be right."
If I had one dying wish I would call Paul pierce to my death bed just so I can say “go to hell” with my dying breath
I hate everything about Boston
They willingly donned the green and white uniforms
And now they have broken many hawks fans hearts By taking Jason Terry
Man am I glad Boston took Melo... That would have been a horrible pick.
Remember, a big man develops slow, he has huge upside
Kwame Brown had huge upside too.......
COACH Tyronn Lue??
Boston keeps surprising me with new ways if how to hate them
A comeback win would make up for the blown call in Game 6 Not really
It was rumored that Mayo wanted $8 million per year but the Mavs had just $4 million left in cap room so there may be more to the signing including a possible sign and trade deal once the dust settles. It is said to be a multi-year deal, but details aren't available as yet.
This is important to note for the Celtics because Danny was trying to work out a sign and trade for Jason Terry with Dallas to free up the MLE to be used to sign another player. Depending on the details of the deal, this may rule out any deals with the Celtics or, it may be part of something bigger that involves the Celtics. . And the wait continues...
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Rajon Rondo is making good use of his off season by attending the Nike World Basketball Festival in Paris. The World Baskeball Festival ran from July 12 through today, July 16. Two full-size basketball courts and two half-courts have been built at the Cité Universitaire Internationale giving fans the chance to play for free over the five days, attending tournaments and basketball clinics.
On Saturday the captain of the French basketball team Boris Diaw and his teammates stopped off to meet fans and to judge the dunk contest. The year 2012 marks the 30-year anniversary of Nike's legendary the Air Force 1 shoe, and Nike broadcast the documentary “Air Force 1: Anatomy of an Urban Legend” at the festival. 2012 is also the 20th anniversary of the 1992 USA Dream Team and Nike has developed a sportswear collection celebrating the achievements of this team, and is showcasing this line at the festival.
For his part, Rondo sat in on a question and answer session about the new Nike Hyperdunk+ shoe and is participating in other activities for Nike. He also taught youth clinics and gave an interview to a French website, BasketSession.com. You can read the entire interview in French here. I've used my best translating skills from a minor in French to give you a couple of excerpts from the interview after the jump. To whet your appetite, the title of the article is "I am the best point guard in the league." Read more » Leave a comment Link backs Tweet
Sully poured in 14 points and 7 rebounds on 3-8 shooting. Joseph had 14 points on 4-10 shootng and was 1-3 from 3. Moore started and scored 9 points and 2 assists. Melo actually had a good showing and chipped in 7 points and 5 rebounds. Christmas had 11 points and 5 rebounds as he got the start vs the Hawks. JJJ started and chipped in 6 points and 5 rebounds.
vs Atlanta Hawks (1-1) vs Celtics (0-0)
Monday, July 16
4:00 PM ET
Cox Pavillion, Las Vegas, NV Game Thread
After a very successful week in Orlando, where they compiled a 4-1 record, the Celtics Summer League team will attempt to continue to shine as they take on new competition in Vegas. First up for the Celtics will be the Atlanta Hawks, who have already played 2 games in Vegas with mixed results. They beat the Wizards 102-82 on the opening day of Vegas SL and then lost to the Spurs SL entry on Sunday, 82-76.
Unlike many of the teams in Vegas with top draft picks, we won't notice many big names on the Hawks since they didn't pick until 23rd in the draft. Hawks picked G John Jenkins out of Vanderbilt with the 23rd pick and they drafted F Mike Scott out of Virginia with the 43rd pick. Both are on the team. Former Laker C Derrick Caracter is vying for a spot on the team as is Paul Millsap's brother Elijah. F Pape Sy, who played for the Hawks in the '10-'11 season is also on the team.
On a positive note for the Celtics, Dionte Christmas is remaining with the Celtics this week. He originally planned to join the Rockets' entry in Vegas but enjoyed much success with the Celtics in Orlando and decided that his best chance to gain a training camp invite was to stick with the Celtics. The Celtics must decide whether to guarantee E'Twaun Moore's contract at the end of this week and it's possible that Moore and Christmas are playing for the same spot on the team. These two will be worth watching this week, as will Sean Williams whose contract is also due to be decided on at the end of the week.
The lights shine a bit brighter in Vegas and there are fans in the stands and some of the competition will be a bit tougher and the Celtics will need to step it up this week if they want to replicate the success they had last week in Orlando.
The Celtics begin their Vegas Summer League games today at 4:00 PM ET vs the Atlanta Hawks. The Celtics are coming off of an impressive 4-1 showing in Orlando and will look to improve on that success with games against the Hawks, Bulls, Bucks, and the Clippers. There are 17 other teams playing in Vegas that the Celtics won't face including the Hornets, Heat, Knicks and Lakers. Austin Rivers will have to wait for his first competition vs his Dad's Celtics.
The Celtics 5 games will be televised, as follows:
Monday, July 16 vs ATL 4:00 PM ET NBA-TV
Wednesday, July 18 vs CHI at 12:00 PM ET NBA-TV
Thursday, July 19 vs SAC at 6:30 PM ET CSNNE
Friday, July 20 vs SAC at 3:00 AM ET NBA-TV
Saturday, July 21 vs MIL at 10:30 PM ET NBA-TV
Sunday, July 22 vs LAC at 6:00 PM ET NBA-TV and CSNNE
It's nice to see that CSNNE will be televising 2 of the games. I hope we get to see Mike and Tommy. I sure miss those two. It will also help me avoid getting up at 2:00 AM to watch the Sacramento game. The games will probably be replayed next week as there are games on the schedule but the teams aren't up on the schedule yet.
For those who have been impressed with the play of Dionte Christmas in the Orlando Summer League, you will be happy to find out that Christmas will remain with the Celtics in Vegas. He was originally scheduled to play with Houston, but he played so well with the Celtics that he has decided to stick with them, hoping to earn a training camp invite.
Players to watch in these games start with E'Twaun Moore and Sean Williams both of whom are playing for contracts. The Celtics must decide whether to guarantee their contracts for the season on the last day of Vegas Summer League. Also keep an eye on Kris Joseph and Dionte Christmas, both of whom impressed in Orlando and are hoping to continue their strong play in Vegas.
I've hesitated to write about the Ray Allen defection because I didn't want to post a knee-jerk reaction. I've had a chance to think it over and while I appreciate what Ray did for the Celtics and he'll always be part of the 17th championship team, I've lost a lot of respect for Ray Allen as a professional and as a person.
Over the years, I've seen Ray Allen referred to as a consummate professional. A consummate professional can be defined as someone who is characterized by his intense professionalism and intolerance of lack thereof. Ray Allen's decision to leave the Celtics, and his reasons for it, are anything but professional.
Reportedly Ray was hurt by Danny's attempt to trade him at the last trade deadline and sources have said that he couldn't get past that. Paul Pierce has been almost traded pretty much every year since Chris Paul was drafted. His name has been floated in trade rumors way more than Ray's. Rondo has to be the king of trade rumors. Every year, every off season, every trade deadline, there are very credible reports of Rondo being shopped and almost traded. Pau Gasol has been the subject of trade rumors, including one involving Rondo. He was traded in the Chris Paul trade but then the trade was nixed by Herr Stern. He hasn't tried to figure some way to stick it to the Lakers. He's stated that he wants to stay there. It pains me to say, but Pau Gasol has shown more professionalism than Ray Allen. Read more » Leave a comment Link backs Tweet