I got to wondering about what other fans are thinking about the Celtics moves and possible moves and spent some time looking around other teams' message boards.
Today Marc Spears said that the signing of Chris Wilcox in Detroit didn't affect their interest in a sign and trade with the Celtics for Big Baby. That is an interesting twist since most of us thought that when they signed Wilcox, it took them out of the market for Big Baby. Most Celtics fans want Danny to bring Big Baby back but it seems as though Pistons fans aren't quite as excited to be in the running for his services. Here are a few thoughts from Pistons fans:
The only possibility that would make any sense would be Jason Maxiell for a re-signed Davis. Wilcox could have been signed to back-up CV at the four...
Talent wise, I'd take Davis or Max.
But I cannot stand Davis at all--so let's not do this.
I would prefer Baby over Max, Baby has more offensive skills. But if this does happen, i would miss Max, our spark off the bench.
NO BIG BABY!! HELL NO TO GIVING AWAY ONE OF OUR PLAYERS FOR BIG BABY!!!
I don't want big baby on my team. That is and shall remain my stance.
Max (6'5" without shoes) can't play C, and Big Baby (6.7 3/4" without shoes) can. We could probably get Big Baby on better terms than we have Max -- think 3 years instead of 5.
i thought that big baby stuff was done now . I'd be embarrassed 2 be a pistons fan if we get him .
Maxiell is too undersized at 6'6", and he is playing like a C Big baby isn't much taller but he may be 6'8", and he has decent jumperTrading Maxiell for Big Baby may make improvement. Afterall, if we can get rid of Maxiell's contract, thats already a plus. Coz no team wants his contract, they all prefer shorter term contracts mainly because of the 2010 FA class and the economy down turn And obviously he's severly undersized, that may scare off other teams as well.
Big Baby is fat, chances are he'll become even larger as he ages. No thanks.
Pistons fans are split as to whether they want Big Baby or not but most seem to feel that Maxiell is the only logical candidate for a sign and trade on their side. Personally I don't see where Danny would go for Maxiell. His contract is for 4 more years at 5 million a year and he is shorter than Big Baby and doesn't have Big Baby's offensive skills. I just don't see it.
The only other players that are in the price range that Big Baby will go for are Kwame Brown who has one year left at 4.1 million. I don't see Danny going for a bust in place of Big Baby who I'd much rather have at $4 million. And then there could be a combination of Fabricio Oberto with 1 year at $3.5 million and Rodney Stuckey with 3 years left that goes from $1.8 to $3.8 million. I wouldn't mind that deal but don't see the Pistons giving away their starting PG for a back up power forward. I just don't see any pieces that Detroit could trade that would help the Celtics. The Pistons may still have interest, but I don't see Danny going for it.
Next, I took a look at what Pistons fans had to say about Rasheed coming to Boston.
Perfect! It's now GuaranSheed he won't be back here. That's cause for some serious celebration. The infection has been removed, now the healing and rebuilding can start.
I'm here in Mass and I can't tell you how blown away I am that Boston fans seem to think that this is a slam dunk great move. They keep talking about how he's gonna help be a big and a force down low. It's as if they haven't watched a single Piston game in 3 years. Sheed coming off the bench is going to be a disaster i think. He's gonna come in and just start jacking up 3's. It's gonna drive people nuts, and will be a blast to watch.
I expect him to be revitalized for a year. A YEAR.
I give the honeymoon about half a season. For some reason I can't see him getting along with Rivers.
I think it helps the Celtics stay at the top in the East, but nothing to the extent of what a healthy KG does for them in my opinion.
Ugh, I absolutely hate Boston. It makes me want to burn my Sheed jersey to see him on that team.
Boston is oooooooooooold and getting older. At the start of this coming season, Boston's players' ages: Perkins-25 Rondo-24 Allen-34 Pierce-32 Garnett-33 Sheed-35 House-31 Marbury-32 Scalabrine-31
Having said that, I think adding Wallace helps the Celtics. A big who can stretch the floor and is an above average defender will be a plus. If there is one thing I've learned watching Rasheed though it is that he plays and behaves up to the standards set around him. If he doesn't respect the opponent or guy he's defending he doesn't show up in the same way he does for a Duncan or Dirk. If he doesn't respect the leadership of his team, he does what he can get away with. I don't think Pierce or KG will stand for that.
He's not the same player he was even two years ago. At 35, his legs are pretty much gone. His shooting proficiency has decreased the last three seasons and he's nowhere near the defender he used to be.
Good for him, I hope he eats Gasol's and Bynum's lunch in the Finals next year and gets another belt!
I'm glad he went to Boston because now he can drag them down like he has us the last couple of years. Lazy malcontent and good riddance.
I always wanted to see Sheed and KG on the same team, I just hoped that team would be the Pistons.
I think they were better off trying to keep Glenn Davis.
I just don't approve of someone so lazy latching on to a hard working championship caliber team like the Celtics.
Sheed doesn't deserve another ring. I pray that his lazy attitude becomes infectious in Boston.
I HAAAATE Boston. I used to like sheed but im afraid im gonna have to hate him now. ok maybe not. but i wont be rooting for him when he's against the pistons.
Rasheed was a big part of the success and failure of this team over the past five seasons. I honestly dont think anyone should be happy to see him leave because he did alot for the organization. With that said, his services were no longer needed and obviously both sides realized it. I will root for Rasheed anytime he does not play the Pistons.
Wow! Some hard feelings for Sheed in Detroit. You would think that they were talking about Mark Blount instead of Sheed.
Next I checked out the Pacers boards to see what they were saying about Daniels to Boston and who might be coming back in a sign and trade.
Scalabrine? I would assume for the expiring.
Why would we sign and trade Daniels for Scalbrine? Why take on added salary for any reason?
Scalabrine? is that a joke? we already got Murphy why do the Pacers need Troy Murphy part 2?
The only point of this trade would be to make the Pacers as white as the Utah Jazz. And they'd be paying $3.5M for that privilege,
Oh, my lord...this is horrible. Scalabrine's the only guy in that price range, but why the **** are we going to take on $3.4mm of salaries to get Scalabrine? I'm going to be sick.
Why would we want the poor man's troy murphy when we have the real thing.
It won't be just Scalabrine. I'd bet that we would get a first round pick and Gabe Pruitt as well. At that point, i'd love the deal.
I remember Dan Patrick telling Reggie that the Pacers should trade for Scalabrine and make the Pacers an all white team, I never thought this was going to be possible
Scalabrine is really similar to Troy I am not saying this because they are white, actually I think that Scalabrine is a better defender than Murphy, I always thought that I rather have him an his 3mil a year than Murphy for 11mil a year.When Brian plays big minutes his numbers are really good.(just my two cents)
Scalabrine's main role in such a trade would be as white guy/salary match.
a trade for Rondo maybe? he is only making 3mil maybe a sign and trade for him and other pieces?
Why couldn't it be for Big Baby instead of Scalabrine?
Probably because the Celts wouldn't trade Big Baby for Daniels.
Let's get Large Infant!
Everytime I see Scalabrine on the court, I ask myself.....why is that pastie unathletic looking guy on the court?
I'd like to get Bill Walker if we could.
Tony Allen is the final year of his deal, making 2.5 With the addition of Daniels, Allen would be availale. Sign & trade Daniels for Allen.
A S&T for Tony Allen would make great sense, he's basically Marquis Daniels without the BBIQ and with better individual defence.
With the Celts reportedly souring on Rondo, can anyone see any combination of say Marquis and TJ Ford for Rondo & Scalabrine...
They weren't souring on Rondo, they were just trying to see if someone would OVERPAY while his stock was really high.
why does erveryone think Scalabrine is horrible. I mean he doesn't fit what we need at all. But he is not terrible. Great locker room guy, great teammtes. pretty good shooter, smart and will follow the system
Let's not forget Ainge and Bird are buddies. Maybe they're trying to do each other a favor. I hope he sends us Rondo!....................
Speaking of favors... Ainge and McHale were buddies as well, and we all know how it ended up.
I'd much rather just sign Marquis if he is that cheap, I'd give him anywhere in the 4/5 million per year if we could keep him.
I'd have interest in Bill Walker and Tony Allen just to solidify out wing depth. I was very high on Walker coming out, he's a tremendous athlete who could really be a nice energy defender on someone's bench (similar to Jones). Allen has always been a pretty nice bench player, he can defend and score a little, a little short to provide depth at both the 2 and 3 though at only 6"4.
I would like Walker and Allen for Daniels. Hell, I'd love it.
To me one possible scenerio is Tony Allen comes to the Pacers for the re-signed Marquis Daniels . By taking back Allen at 2.5 mil Daniels can sign a 3.3, 3.7, 4.1 = 12.1 mil 3 year deal to become a Celtic.
Tony Allen a good defender and another slasher seems the best and maybe only fit for a Daniels to Boston deal involving the Pacers.
Allen could use a couple more inches for the two, but he's got experience, can score the ball, and is a decent defender. Plus, if we need to move one or more of our apparent PG glut, he's logged minutes at that position, too, with reasonable results.
This will be a problem. Now the team doesn't have a player with a detailed map of Florida on his back. How will they get to Amway Arena on road trips? Someone needs to send Hansbrough to the ink shop quickly...
This is like the big present at christmas time. I can't wait to find out what the trade will be!
Pacers fans definitely don't want Scal and would love to have either Tony or Bill Walker. I liked the scenario of trading Tony for Daniels. That works out for both sides. The Celtics get to keep the LLE and they get Daniels and get rid of Tony, who becomes unnecessary with Daniels on the team. Larry gets the athletic wing that he needs. Works for everyone.